Showing posts with label The day of the Lord. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The day of the Lord. Show all posts

Saturday, June 10, 2017

James Montgomery Boice & the Rapture

Rapture article by Boice. I disagree with a number of things he states; nevertheless, he makes some interesting observations. Boice is pretribulational. For example:
Paul’s main points clearly were that the present suffering of the Christians at Thessalonica was not the tribulation prophesied  in the Old Testament and taught by himself, that the final tribulation would not come until after the Christians were caught up to meet the Lord Jesus Christ in the air, therefore, that the coming of Christ rather than the final judgment should be uppermost in the minds of believers.
And this:
(1) First of all, the imminent return of the Lord Jesus Christ should be an incentive to godly living. That is the point Jesus Himself made when talking about His return in Matthew 24. The chapter is filled with imperatives: “See that no one leads you astray” (v. 4); “See that you are not alarmed” (v. 6), “flee to the mountains” (v. 16); “pray” (v. 20); “do not believe it” (vv. 23, 26); “learn” (v. 32); “know” (v. 33). Jesus concluded with the warning, “Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect” (Matthew 24:44). The apostle John, who undoubtedly heard the Lord on this occasion, later made the identical point in one of his letters, “Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. And everyone who this hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure” (1 John 3:2-3)
This thought should affect every aspect of your personal life — your prayer life, your choices in the area of ethics and morals, even your social concerns. Lord Shaftesbury, the great English social reformer and a mature Christian, said near the end of his life, “I do not think that in the last forty years I have ever lived one conscious hour that was not influenced by the thought of our Lord’s return.” In his case, the expectation of meeting Jesus was undoubtedly one of the strongest motives behind his social programs.
Are you looking for Christ’s return? In an earlier study of this same subject I once wrote:
If you are motivated by prejudice against other Christians or others in general, whether they are black or white, rich or poor, cultured or culturally naive, or whatever they may be–then the return of Jesus Christ has not made its proper impression on you. If you are contemplating some sin, perhaps a dishonest act in business, perhaps trifling with sex outside marriage, perhaps cheating on your income tax return–then the return of Jesus Christ has not made its proper impression on you. If your life is marked by a contentious, divisive spirit in which you seek to tear down the work of another person instead of building it up–then the return of Jesus Christ has not made its proper impression on you. If you first protect your own interests and neglect to give food, water, or nothing to the needy as we are instructed to do in Christ’s name–then the return of Jesus Christ has not made its proper impression on you (James Montgomery Boice, Philippians: An Expositional Commentary [Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1971], p. 249).
Read the article HERE

Friday, September 3, 2010

Worst time ever...

In This Study, Dr Alan Cole discusses the pre-wrath (and post-trib) view of the day of the Lord in Joel 2&3. One point of interest to me is the evaluation of Dr Charles Cooper’s challenge to Renald Showers’ view on the proof of the overlapping between the great tribulation and the day of the Lord based on Joel 2:1.

Dr Showers contends that the phrase “there has never been anything like it” refers to the day of the Lord. He then uses other references such as Matt 24:21 to argue that, because there can’t be two uniquely worst days in history, the two periods must be referring to the same timeframe or at least overlap.

Dr Cooper counters that the phrase “there has never been anything like it” refers to the people and not to the day of the Lord.


He makes a valid point.

But what he doesn’t do is refute Dr Showers’ over-all contention. Here’s the problem as I see it – Matt 24:21 asserts that the Great Tribulation is the worst time in history and that no other time will be as harsh:

…for at that time there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will be. (Mat 24:21 NASB)

That time will be so bad that:

And unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days shall be cut short. (Mat 24:22 NASB)

Both pre-wrath and post-trib proponents divide the great tribulation and the day of the Lord into two periods which don’t overlap. The obvious problem then is that any period following the great tribulation cannot be as severe.

It is suggested that Matt 24 is speaking of Satan’s wrath. By implication, then, these are two different subjects which consequently allows for two unparalleled periods. But is that really the case or is it circular reasoning?

No distinction is ever made between the great tribulation and God’s wrath nor is the tribulation ever scripturally restricted to Satan’s persecution – it is an assumption used to support an expectation. Pretribbers hold that Satan’s wrath, and various other calamities are extensions of God’s wrath and judgments (Ezekiel 14:21; Revelation 6:8). Furthermore, the phrase “since the beginning of the world” incorporates Noah’s flood.

The fact that the GT is shortened - otherwise no life would be saved - indicates an all-inclusive global condition which also embraces unbelievers. Christ states that all lives would be lost if there was no intervention to shorten that period. The question then is - if the day of the Lord occurs after those days have been shortened then what happens to life on earth?

The Great Tribulation Period is cut short for the sake of the elect (the Church).

The reason given by the Lord for this shortening cannot be logically used in reference to the church’s rapture and/or resurrection. If every last Christian was martyred they’d still be raised up. Nor can it be used to argue for a GT lasting less than the consistently prophesied three-and-a-half years.

We know the Antichrist has been given authority to act for 42 months (Rev 13:5); that he gathers the armies at Rev 16 and martyred saints are raised after the beast has been bound (Rev 20:4). We also know that the Antichrist is destroyed (not hand cuffed) at Christ’s coming (2 Thess 2:8; Rev 19:20).

At the time the Antichrist has gathered the armies he is still within his 42 months because he is using his authority to accomplish that at the 6th bowl. His time expires at Rev 19 which is post trumpets and bowls. Hence the trumpets and bowls are contained within the GT period.

Therefore, while Dr Showers’ argument in the Joel 2 case may be questioned, his over-all premise is on solid foundations.

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

What is the day of the Lord?

As mentioned in my previous post, not all pretribulationists agree on when the day of the Lord begins. There is also disagreement as to its scope and whether it includes the Millennium or not. For my purpose, I want to concentrate on when the day of the Lord actually begins because most rapture believers agree that it contains God’s wrath and the church is not destined to see His wrath.

Most often when people quote verses relating to the day of the Lord they’ll appeal to Joel 2:31 and Joel 3:14-15. Frequently these verses are associated with the cosmic signs of the 6th seal and Matt 24:29. For these people, the day of the Lord is the time of God’s wrath and is a distinct period within the last half of Daniel’s 70th week, or at the end. Some believe the day of the Lord begins at the 7th seal some time after the Abomination of Desolation. Many hold similar views but they do not see the seals occurring chronologically and so, according to their system, the day of the Lord occurs at the end of the week.

If we were to take the day of the Lord as a single event ONLY occurring AFTER the mid-point of the 70th week, we come to what I consider to be contradictions in Scripture. I struggle to see how an event with all the precursors we see in Revelation can be imminent or sudden and yet harmonize with what Paul is telling us in the following verses:

1Th 5:1-6 Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief; for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober.

To summarize what Paul is saying: The day of the Lord will come like a thief – a thief takes something away and comes suddenly without announcement. The thief idea also occurs in Rev 16:15 but in that verse we do not have the same surprise element of Thess. Some see this remark as a parenthesis. Paul tells us that the day of the Lord comes when they are saying “peace and safety”, which is not occurring at Rev 16:15. Note that Paul also associates the destruction with the beginning of labor pains.

In Matt 24:8 the Lord mentions birth pangs occurring long before the Abomination of Desolation. In light of that, the birth pangs may be associated with the DotL and labor pains of 1 Thes 5. Can the earth dwellers be experiencing peace and safety after the Abomination of Desolation or post mid-week? Two main views have the DotL occurring after that event. An end of the week DotL has to occur after the gathering of the armies for the Armageddon campaign. And both post mid-week DotL versions occur after the 2nd seal where Scripture clearly tells us that peace is taken from the earth.

Rev 6:3-4 When He broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come." And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him.

If we take both Rev 6:3-4 and 1 Thes 5:1-6 literally, then some aspect of the DotL must occur BEFORE the 2nd seal. One can try to stretch the timing of the seal within the framework of one’s presuppositions but the problem cannot be avoided. One should also note that the results of the 2nd seal are non-discriminatory and therefore include believers and unbelievers alike.

Problems also emerge for those who hold the DotL occurs at the 7th seal, regardless of where they place it within the 70th week.

Rev 6:15-17 Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?"

Some translations have “is come”. The claim is that the unbelievers are crying out in terror at the expectation that wrath of God/DotL is about to come (7th seal). In my opinion this has at least three problems:

One is of a linguistic nature – the expression the great day of his wrath is come is in the indicative mood with the augment. According to Dana and Mantey “A Manual Grammar of the Greek new Testament” pp 193-94, normally, that kind of aorist tense verb refers to an occurrence of that event in the past unless the context clearly indicates otherwise. A T Robertson and R L Thomas concur. See Showers’ “Maranatha – Our Lord, Come”. My position is that the unbelievers are simply reacting to what has just transpired and in light of what has been happening in the previous seal judgments. Therefore the wrath of God is present at that stage.

The next problem is that the statement is made by unbelievers who are in darkness (I Thess 5:4) and John is only quoting them, so it cannot be accepted without analysis.

Finally, given that they are terrified unbelievers (no peace and safety) and - according to Paul – in darkness, how could they possibly prophesy the 7th seal coming wrath of God/DotL and still harmonize literally with the 1 Thess 5:1-6? This is a contradiction.

The grouping of Joel 2:31, 3:14-15, Matt 24:29 and Rev 6:12-17 as a single event also has some problems:

We learn from Joel 3:14 that armies are gathering in the valley of decision before the day of the Lord. At the 6th seal we see the earth dwellers hiding in caves and among the rocks - NOT gathering for battle. No armies are said to be gathering there between the 6th and 7th seals. The only place where we read that the armies begin to gather in Revelation is at the 6th bowl (Rev 16:12-14). Any argument for a gathering of the armies between the 6th and 7th seals is speculation. It also contradicts the requirements for a harmonization of 1 Thes 5:1-6 and Rev 6:3-4. If armies are gathering for war at that time (before the DotL) then there isn’t any peace and safety.

Finally, a sequential and chronological order for Revelation has problems for those who see the cosmic signs of Rev 6, Matt 24 and Joel 3 as the same event because the Lord says “after the tribulation of those days”, yet the great tribulation lasts for three and a half years.

So there seems to be contradictions with comparing Scriptures describing the day of the Lord. Sometimes a narrow view is quite appropriate yet at other times it doesn’t fit. What’s the answer? I think a possible solution is that the term “day of the Lord” is not always meant to depict a narrow, single-day event.

“In itself, ‘the Day of the Lord’ is a general and comprehensive expression for the consummation of God’s purpose, alike in victory and judgment.” J. A.T. Robinson “Jesus and His coming” p 19

“It is a day that is a special time; and it is the Day of the Lord, belongs to Him, is His time for working, for manifesting Himself, for displaying His character, for performing His work – His strange work upon the earth…” A. B. Davidson “The Theology of the Old Testament in International Theological Library” p 374

"Though the 'Day of the Lord,' as the expression implies, was at first conceived as a definite and brief period of time, being an era of judgment and salvation, it many times broadened out to be an extended period. From being a day it became an epoch." A B Davidson “Theology of the Old Testament” p 381

J Barton Payne (The Theology of the Older Testament p 464): “The comprehensive phrase, by which the Old Testament describes God’s intervention in human history for the accomplishment of His testament is yom Yahweh, “the day of Yahweh’”

E W Bullinger in referring to the day of the Lord of Joel 2:31, “It is called ‘the great and terrible day of the Lord’, as if though it were the climax of the whole period known as ‘the day of the Lord.’”

The term “the great and terrible day of the Lord” of Joel 2 applies to Joel 3. Mal 4:5 also uses the term “the great and terrible day of the LORD” to describe the same event.

Given this, Dr Renald Showers in his book “Maranatha – Our Lord, Come” postulates (in agreement with other scholars) that there are two aspects of the day of the Lord. The broad aspect is when He begins to sovereignly inaugurate His program with the opening of the first seal - while the narrow aspect is the culmination of the great and terrible day of the Lord that we see in Joel.

In other words it’s like a teacher telling a student to prepare for an exam which will occur on a day yet to be revealed. All the student is told, at that point, is that the “terrible” exam will take place at 3:00 PM on that day. One day at 9:00 AM the student suddenly notices that the teacher is setting up the room where the exam will take place. So at 9:00 AM of that day, it is still exam day but the “terrible” exam does not commence until 3:00 PM.

The opening of the first seal is the beginning of the labor pains that are associated with the suddenness of the broad day of the Lord. Let’s look at some of the relevant verses again:

Mat 24:8 "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.

1Th 5:2-3 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.

Rev 6:4 And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him.

Further reading:

The Day of the Lord

Analysis of the Use of Cosmic-Sign Passages

THE DAY OF THE LORD AND CERTAIN SO-CALLED
“PRECURSORS”


THE CHRONOLOGICAL AND SEQUENTIAL STRUCTURE OF THE REVELATION