Sunday, October 18, 2015

Led Astray and Left Behind

See also Looking for Christ’s Coming and The Pretribulational Rapture Bullies

Yes, I rearranged the wording of Joe Schimmel's epic four-and-half-hour DVD "Left Behind or Led Astray?" I believe the movie has left the truth behind and led people astray.

I've read a lot of propaganda surrounding Darby and the origins of pretrib over the years. Judging by what I saw in the trailer and what I've read from the movie's fan base blogs, it's pretty much the same conspiratorial stuff regurgitated by people driven by a Quixotic vision of saving the world from pretribulationism and dispensationalism. One of the incisive points was that pretibulationism may have originated from the Jesuits. And here I thought only Seventh-day Adventists pushed that cart along these days.

Following Dr Wilkinson's initial brief comments expressing dismay at the movie, two of the participants felt compelled to convene a one hour and forty-five minute rebuttal. See a previous post HERE.

 Dr Paul Wilkinson has finally responded at length. It's well worth a look.

A new DVD documentary has just been released by Good Fight Ministries entitled, “Left Behind or Led Astray? Examining the Origins of the Secret Pre-Tribulation Rapture.” Good Fight Ministries is run by post-tribulationist Joe Schimmel, the senior pastor at Blessed Hope Chapel in Simi Valley, California. Schimmel’s documentary is endorsed by evangelist Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, star of the original “Left Behind” movies. The following write-up appears on the back cover: “Take a fascinating journey with us as we examine the shocking origins of the secret, pre-tribulation rapture doctrine…. Featuring expert commentary from David M. Bennett, Dr. Mark Patterson, Jacob Prasch, Joel Richardson, and Dave MacPherson.” The truth of the matter is that the 4½ hour film seriously distorts the historical evidence and is full of false accusations, unsubstantiated myths, and lies...keep reading
Here's another response from Once Lost


Daniel Comfort said...

It is erroneous that Ray Comfort endorsed this documentary. It has been propagated in the Internet but it is not true.

Alf Cengia said...

Thanks for that input, Daniel.

I know Kirk has plugged it. Some of the supporters of the DVD claim Ray has as well, but I personally haven't read any statements from him to that effect.

Irv said...

Let's see if anyone can sear his conscience a little more after Googling "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty."

Alf Cengia said...

Hey, Irv, does this sound familiar?

Quote: You still have time before the tribulation begins to Google "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty," "John Darby Did NOT Invent the Rapture," "Margaret Macdonald's Rapture Chart," "X-Raying Margaret," "Famous Rapture Watchers," "Scholars Weigh My Research," "Pretrib Rapture Pride," "Walvoord Melts Ice," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)," "Pretrib Hypocrisy," "Wily Jeffrey," "Grant Jeffrey's Apocalypse Debacle," "Pretrib Rapture Stealth," "Hal Lindsey's Pretrib Rapture Proof," "Roots of Warlike Christian Zionism," "Letter from Mrs. Billy Graham," "The Pretrib Rapture Jackpot," "Pretrib Rapture: A Staged Event," "Pretrib Rapture Secrecy," and "Evangelical Use Occult Deception." Many of these can be found on Joe Ortiz's worldwide blogs (Google "Joe Ortiz Associates"). ~ End quote

You still have time to read the following re Mr. Ortiz and Mr. MacPherson:

Would love some specific feedback.